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The significance of this post has just hit home. Massive amounts of thanks for a few simple words! Haha

Ya ammonium acetate is going to be the one I would think…. I’m going to go for the 3,4,5-triMEOba before the 2,5-di. Purely because reacting it with nitromethane and you are on your way to mescaline and yet I’m still then free to try using the nitromethane to make the 3,4,5-TMA as well. I do...

Ah thanks for your reply - tbf I think I’m going to try the NaBH4 animatics reduction route first. I did try it but it’s summer here and I only had a normal water/ice/salt bath and didn’t add everything sufficiently slowly… Am going to get some dry ice, try it again and also ACTUALLY make use...

Okay, iv gathered my thoughts and my main question now is what is the difference between the substance you obtain from reacting this aldehyde with nitroethane as opposed to nitromethane - I know the end result, but what is the difference in the nitrostyrene? Does one make a b-nitrostyrene and...

Okay, iv gathered my thoughts and my main question now is what is the difference between the substance you obtain from reacting this aldehyde with nitroethane as opposed to nitromethane - I know the end result, but what is the difference in the nitrostyrene? Does one make a b-nitrostyrene and...

Actually lazy isn’t the word coz I’m putting in quite a few hours studying these things I just feel like the more I know, the less I know ha

And at the same time do the same RXN with nitroethane to obtain the corresponding TMA (although I can’t say iv looked it up and think it to be a worthy drug to synth - I shall look it up in my copy of pihkal - but as stated before - lazy!

So yeah, I figured 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine was mescaline. The question is can I just react the corresponding aldehyde with nitromethane and then reduce to obtain mescaline? Why, in the synthesis I read in this section do they utilise the cyclohexylamine?

Right now, I’m willing to concede I don’t need a rotary evaporator to conclude the n,n-DMT synth but I DO realise I need sufficiently cold temps (and to add things slowly) using dry ice and not just an ice bath in order to do it this time of year in my country…. That’s nothing to do with this...

Oh also, with regards the pump, I was simply doing some vacuum filtration the other day and the next time I saw my neighbour he thought I was sawing through the plumbing as I had it sat on the *****ing kitchen surface! Idiot! I did buy an aspirator from China but it doesn’t seem to pull a vacuum...

In other words, colour me confused 🤔

Oops posted my reply by mistake in the general section but yes you are correct tbf… I am lazy and am not a chemist but have learned an awful lot in the past 6 months it’s crazy. All I’m here to do is learn. Ah just read the post below lol anyway I agree with you tbf

Yeah okay I do agree with that - okay so I need a vacuum source that’s capable of running more than the 30 mins they said my oilless one can run for. I need an oil rotary vein pump. But yeh I am fairly lazy I’m not going to lie and recovery of solvents is always something I like to do where...

Also following a Rxn without a rotovap is fairly hard in and of itself….

I’m in an annoying position where I know enough to know the molecular pathway people take, but any details I cannot work out on my own. It’s not like I’m doing it to sell it… I’m still working on reductive amination of tryptamine but need dry ice and have been busy and unable to take receipt of...

Okay so I’m trying to create mescaline. Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by ammonia acetate catalysis? I have googled and read a whole piece about primary amines but stil don’t really understand if I can just switch one out for another, I doubt it lol The only synth iv read is the one...

Oh also sorry to reignite such an old thread

Using a primary amine and nitromethane, correct? Oh and then whatever you use to reduce it with… The question I am after is, what primary amine do most people start with?? I saw a synth on here that uses cyclohexylamine…is there an easy to acquire way of obtaining this or can It be replaced with...

Yeah, I have read into it to be fair - I decided I have enough on my plate trying to get cyclohexylamine atm. I don’t fancy my chances of making the aldehydes. Your right it sounded pretty hard and I’m sure there is a reason people arnt doing it! I doubt I’ll end up using the bottle of...

This is the ammonia rxn that I was reading. Have a look. Also I’ll post the link to the mescaline one but it’s the first you come across when looking through the phenethylamine / amohet section of the forum…