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Can I ask if the ammonium acetate / GAA would work for the production of a small quantity of p2Np from benzaldehyde and nitroethane? I can’t find n-butylamine which seems to be most people’s starter. It’s not something I’m as interested in as the psychedelic phenethylamines but I do feel like it...

Yeh both of these are in the wider plan….

Yeh my plan is to just try both methods tbf.

Yes but I have the GAA already! 😉

To be fair, all went much as the synth said, other than me stupidly adding the reagents to quickly and not having the correct alkane at the end….. Having said that, iv not found the ‘oil’ very EASY to re-x as it states - even from boiling heptane. I think I should just try it again tbf

lol it’s okay I have the heptane now! Am I meant to end up with a yellowy/brown sort of oil at the end stage? Just before re-x’ing with boiling heptane? I kept the oil from the rxn I did with a normal ice bath but I didn’t really pay close attention to the temp. I know it was MAINLY below 0...

Ice? I get the rest, not that I can really OBTAIN them - well I probably could in large amounts I don’t need from China. But I have everything I need to at least TRY the reaction to make cyclohexylamine - if shulgin used it, AND it saves me some nitromethane, both of those are very good things...

He says, fully aware he is going to retry the DMT reductive amination from tryptamine using dry ice and also not *****ing up and using the wrong *****ing solvent to re-x the goo (oil) I was left with, with. Does that even make sense?🤔

Oh nice. 👍 okay It’s a couple of RXN’s I’m working up to. I want to make sure I have everything before I spend the money on 500g+ of the 3,4,5-aldehyde that’s all. To be honest, the hardest thing to find so far has been the nitroethane and nitromethane. Luckily both were distillable in varying...

An interesting YouTube video by chemdelic I think is his name, covered this recently and seemed to make it work nicely - even if he did accidentally add nitroethane to 2,5-DMOaldehyde Instead of nitromethane. I can’t remember exactly how but he found a way to just pour off the water made in situ…

Yeh I realised about ammonium acetate shortly after reaching for pihkal even if he does poo poo it a bit lol

Haha yer both of them have been *****ing awesome for the most part - other than that a couple polish companies have been useful. A lot of the major chems I needed iv ended up just distilling from things already in the country though…. I need to finish that nitroethane synth I started actually...

Haha yes has been done multiple times and yes is much cheaper and easier - to a point. I want to make enough N,n-DMT for the rest of my life and salt it out etc but I’d also like to explore other tryptamines like n,n-DET, DiPT, DPT of course - not saying I will actually get there with others...

I do mean strictly for the 3,4,5-trimeobenzaldehyde to the corresponding b-nitrostyrene

How about ammonium acetate?

Okay that’s useful to me. Nitromethane is hard for me to obtain and so I can’t say i would waste it by using it to make methylamine, however, I have seen a synth from firefighters that looks fairly appealing to me, in terms of OTC-ness. To be fair; having looked into it I could probably...

Okay so does anyone have Ammonium acetate for sale?! Haha jk ☺️

I just thought you guys should know where I’m coming from. It’s actually pretty annoying not being able to think of other things!!

Although let me explain. I get paid by the government for various disabilities every two weeks and 85% roughly gets spent on my private medical cannabis bill. I am trying to reduce this…taking too much too often is a big thing in my life - I am a recovering heroin (opiate) addict and primarily...

Oh legend