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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Please read this first, before posting to the thread “What is Wrong with the MDMA Available Today?” We are specifically discussing MDMA that has been sent to a lab (such as Energy Control or Drugs Data), tested with some form of GCMS or other lab testing in NMR, found to be MDMA, but presents...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Mod edit: The old thread has gone over 250 pages a while ago, which is about the length we use as a soft limit for threads, which lessens the impact on our database. As such, this is the new iteration of the "What is wrong with the MDMA available today?" thread. The previous iteration of this...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    The stomach will break down any form of MDMA because it's so easily dissolved. It has an excellent bioavailability in the 60-70% range. If you are so concerned about MDMA polymorphism, dissolve your stuff in water, no more polymorphism, just MDMA molecules in water. Bwahahah how cute... You...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Yes I did want to come in and chime in . Please don't think I try and offend anyone. Less anyone that wants to do drug testing. Getyourdrugstested.com is always FREE, FTIR and they accept international parcels. I always test my stuff every batch. But TLC IS GREAT for say is your ket cut with...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    but spot plate TLC? It's ok but there is alot then meets the eye to the trained chemist. Forget someone buying and using a tlc plate it def is NOT enough better thrn nothing but still not good in my experience
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    I'm my experience tlc is great for telling you your mdma is mdma. It's not really great on which form. Purity in the high 80s-90s we are use to etc. Even with nmr, gcms etc it turns out my lab and energy control are missing something and that final 10% makes a huge difference it's ok. But you...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    but we know of at least 3 different mdma polymorphs and finding out about polymorphism is tied to funding on that molecule. It will test as mdma and the only way to discern it is via xray The use of polymorphous structures is complicated by the fact that, for many of them, we do not know...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    There are something I will admit ... if we get technical. Yes There is only MDMA it's formal (IUPAC) name is N-methyl-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)propan-2-amine, it's CAS# is (CAS-42542-10-09) is commonly known as 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine or methylenedioxy-methylamfetamine. I will...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    triptonaut123 I havent even BEGUN talking about allotropy allotropy, the existence of a chemical element in two or more forms, which may differ in the arrangement of atoms in crystalline solids or in the occurrence of molecules that contain different numbers of atoms. So Polymorphs are...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    YES BUT ALSO Nope did you not read what I wrote? Different polymorphs can have considerable effects on the physical and chemical properties of the compound. Polymorphs pose a considerable headache for the pharmaceutical industry as more than 50% of Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients (APIs) can...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Some people don't want to become chefs, they just want to grill a quick burger. Not for me to judge. XD People just don't approach it right I think though and lots of wrong comment arrive on this board for people not learning It all starts from strikes books wanting to grill a burger. It's when...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Purification of MDMA is typically achieved following vacuum distillation of the freebase and/or crystallization of the hydrochloride salt.16 The hydrochloride salt can exist as one of several different hydrated or forms.1 possibly even dehydrated...
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    The great piperonyl butoxide to piperonal debate. High yielding Chinese patent using hexamine and polyphosphoric or Preferably, the catalyst is polyph

    I just found this today. China can be known for blowing smoke with patents like this... Sadly I dont see the Lewis structure some i'm at a loss "how if it will will work. or is it a matter of And either they lie or they need lab equipment mostly not suitable for the clandestine chemist or the...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Crystal structure of new chemical entities (NCE) became among the years a critical quality attribute of new API and drug products. Different Polymorphs may have different physico – chemical properties, affecting the performance in terms of efficacy and potentially safety of the pharmaceutical...
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Source. https://maps.org/news/bulletin/the-commercial-chemistry-of-mdma-from-research-to-patient-access/
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    Let’s get it straight: there is only one ‘type’ of MDMA

    Ok so there are many kinds of MDMA. everything from impurties left in the synethsis, to improperly clean stuff or under/over oxidation. These can pass GC/MS tests and FTIR sometimes but not NMR... Besides that I believe MAPS has identified AT 3-4 different types of mdma crystals as they...
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    The great piperonyl butoxide to piperonal debate. High yielding Chinese patent using hexamine and polyphosphoric or Preferably, the catalyst is polyph

    The great piperonyl butoxide to piperonal debate. High yielding Chinese patent using hexamine and polyphosphoric or Preferably, the catalyst is polyphosphoric but 1 or more of phosphoric acid, acetic anhydride or polyphosphoric acid is acceptable Ok it's first of all Chinese. And either they...
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