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After this do you neutralize it with a bicarb solution and extract with dcm or use it as such?

Honestly it's not the best method. There is another rxn writeup on this thread where they use 180 to start on an industrial scale. They distill the formic acid they don't reflux it and I understand why, too much acid to neutralize at the end. But now I'm having trouble crystalizing it. I added...

On second try I refluxed it with the hcl for 6 hours. It stayed a brown liquid. I added naoh solution to bring ph up (takes a lot of naoh in order to do that). Seperated with dcm after, separation has a lot of salt residue in it. Evaporated the dcm and got left with a brown syropy liquid. I...

No, not yet. Trying the reaction again today but going at 45-55c for 6 hours instead of higher temp for 3 hours. So far it looks better than the previous reaction, it did not turn into tar although it was not a clear yellow after the 7 hour reflux with formic acid as described by op.

On the vespiary. Won't let me paste the link on here for some reason. Also some claims that dcm makes the best mdma crystals and other claims that say it is impossible to crystallize mdma in dcm.

Telegram is known for collaborating with LE when asked to. Also group chats on it are not secure what so ever.

I tried this conversion recently, did the nmf with formic acid and pmk reflux for 7 hours. Cooled it down then added the 37% hcl, no reaction since it is acid to acid. Then started refluxing it, as soon as it went over 84c the mixture started to turn into a brown sludge. I think its wiser to...

And how did it go?

Did you try it first scale to see if you can do the rxn first?

Just out of curiosity why do you want to use phosphoric acid?

Can copper chloride dehydrate be used instead of copper chloride for this reaction?

That method is for methamphetamine synthesis which is sensitive to water. Since you are making mdma base I don't think the reaction needs to be kept anhydrous so the addition of the dessicant is not necessary. Any one has any opinions on this?

Thanks man, I was really searching for that method but could only find the methylamine gas route. This one seems much easier and safer.

Yup, but that's all they know.

Once you do the ipa separation you usually vacuum distill the ipa off. Some people also do a steam distillation of A oil after that to remove every unpleasant smell and make it ultra pure. (but people don't recognize A oil without the stinky smell usually)

I read a lot of conflicting reports about crystallizing mdma from DCM. Some say it gives the cleanest and best crystals and others say mdma freebase will never crystallize in DCM. Anyone has any experience and can chime in?

I usually use stirring when boiling my reactions. I find it's more efficient than boiling stones

what method do you use to transform the pmk oil into mdma freebase? (If you dont mind sharing) thats a fantastic yield.

Ah ok, so you recommend to reflux it at 75c? I don't think it needs such a high temperature with hcl.

Interesting, I read on a synthesis paper that low temp can lower the yield. How low would you recommend? Cause if it can go below zero then the addition could be done extra fast