Buy Od kriptovalut do gotovine

[HajHajime]

Pozdravljeni vsi. Resnično potrebujem pomoč za razumevanje. Iz svoje denarnice XMR ali BTC moram umakniti kot 10k $ na mesec. Kakšen je najlažji način za to? Mislim o nakupu računa PayPall ali smth, vendar se mb motim. Ofc to mora biti zelo anonimno in brez sledenja do mene

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

O ne vem, vendar vem, da ni PayPal ti fantje so kreteni, če ste podjetje. Ko sem vodil podjetje, ki je uporabljalo PayPal za sprejemanje kreditnih kartic in sprejemanje denarja v imenu mojega podjetja, so mi približno vsak teden zaklenili račun in me nadlegovali, kaj točno ljudje kupujejo od mene, in če je prišlo do spora, so mi preprosto vzeli denar in ga vrnili, ne da bi ga sploh omenili ali mi dali možnost arbitraže.

 

[idlewild]

Ja, sploh nisem prodajalec, uporabljam ga samo za nekaj prijateljev in nekega jutra so po eni transakciji popolnoma zaklenili, nisem se mogel dotakniti svojega stanja in verjetno se ga nikoli ne bom. 24 ur sem jih moral nonstop peklenščiti in končno, ko sem omenil urad za boljše poslovanje, so se zlomili in me spustili. Nikoli več se jih ne bom dotaknil

 

[2-79-790125]

če govorimo o PayPalu..........če bodo začutili vsaj najmanjši vonj po nečem nedovoljenem, bodo (PayPal) za 3 dni blokirali vaš račun za vse transakcije s kriptovalutami. Če drugi dan in 12 ur znova poskusite opraviti transakcijo, to ponastavi uro in znova zaklene za 3 dni. PayPal uporabljam za vse svoje "poznaj svojo stranko" nad krovom, ne za anonimne stvari. Tako kot se niti ne trudite z vpn. Zakaj PayPal? Sila navade, poleg tega so stvari zelo enostavne. Če želite zajebantski izziv, nastavite denarnico Monero na uradni spletni strani Monero. Ko sem jo nastavil, sem se počutil kot James Bond. Obožujem droge in kemijo. Absolutno sovražim ukvarjanje z VPN, tor, kriptografijo, ključi PGP bla bla bla bla.............but GOT TO DO IT

 

[miner21]

Ali ste si že ogledali lokalno monero?

 

[HajHajime]

Ja. Toda ali je dovolj varno?

 

[idlewild]

Še zdaleč nisem strokovnjak, zato to jemljite z veliko mero soli, vendar menim, da je privlačnost XMR-ja v njegovi varnosti (in umazano nizkih pristojbinah za transakcije, danes sem resno plačal 2 centa, da sem nekaj poslal). Veliko prodajalcev ga je začelo ponujati in ga imajo raje kot Bitcoin. Žal vam ne morem podrobneje pojasniti, zakaj je boljši.

 

[miner21]

Žal je localmonero zaprl svoja vrata in se zaprl, odkar sem objavil.

Druga možnost je, da vam izmenjavo po vaši izbiri, vendar kovanec z nizkimi pristojbinami za transakcije (litecoin je dober), nato ga pošljite v torto denarnico in tam opravite izmenjavo. Njegova precej preprosta platforma za denarnico in izmenjavo

 

[darkpsychotherapy]

Update to this older thread if anyone else finds it... localmonero has been resurrected and brought back as openmonero.co so check them out. As for trustworthy, the seller must basically deposit an amount greater than they will be trading in to the site. When a transaction begins the site automatically locks an amount of their deposit equal to the amount being traded. If the seller decides to run off with your money then the site will simply release the locked up funds to you preventing a problem with getting scammed. Also, there are some constant regulars. When you start looking to initiate a transaction with someone who already has 22,138 successfully completed transactions andd a 100% track record..... well there are no guarantees in life, but I know I feel comfortable dealing with them. Besides, the spread that they are profitting off of makes it far more beneficial to remain a trustworthy seller. A single transaction may cost you $7-12 over market rate but you get a no kyc transaction and the seller is busy racking up those transaction fees all day long on both ends of the field. He will sell you monero for a profit with whatever your preferred payment method is, and he will also buy monero or btc on the other end each time raking in the profits.... Damn, sounds like I should just invest $5K into crypto holdings and trade for no kyc profit... While I'm sure the powers that be are already devising ways to make it a crime, I'm pretty sure there are no current laws that require me as a personal transaction to collect or verify identification, and no laws as of yet preventing me from conducting multiple small transactions in which I begin to acquire a significant profit regularily....which I would unfortunately find too difficult to maintain accurate ongoing records of due to the constantly fluxuating value of several different currencies, transaction fees, forgetfulness, and general apathy towards governmental efforts to try and regulate my personal affiars....

damn this ADHD, always end up off the rails rambling about something without a clue how I managed to get there most of the time.... with that being said...

there is also some promising services offered by the changeNOW and the half dozen related apps like NOW Wallet, NOW tracker, etc. and the ability to perform certain amounts of no kyc trades on their network for a minor transaction fee. I have used ChangeNOW and Changelly a number of times to convert BTC to Monero without having to provide my entire life history in order to conduct my business with them. Hell, you don't even need to make an account, simply a matter of providing your receiving address and amount and type of crypto to exchange followed by initiating a transfer to the address they provide you after accepting the terms.

OK, that's my limit for the day... I need to try and get some other things accomplished.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Fairly close, if a seller decides to run off with your money, he quickly realizes that's stupid, because he doesn't have your money, and he can't steal it touch it look at it or do anything, because they don't get it until you push "finalize". DON'T GO TO TELEGRAM OR SESSION TO DO A DEAL they will try that because they want to steal your money. Paying 5% insurance to never get ripped off again is worth every penny