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Hej alle sammen. Jeg har virkelig brug for hjælp til at forstå det. Jeg har brug for at hæve omkring 10.000 dollars om måneden fra min XMR- eller BTC-tegnebog. Hvad er den nemmeste måde at gøre dette på? Jeg tænker på at købe PayPall-konto eller smth, men mb jeg tager fejl. Ofc det skal være meget anonymt og uden nogen sporing til mig
 

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Jeg ved det ikke, men jeg ved, at det ikke er PayPal, de fyre er røvhuller, hvis du er en virksomhed. Da jeg drev en virksomhed, der brugte PayPal til at tage imod kreditkort og penge på vegne af min virksomhed, låste de min konto cirka hver uge og chikanerede mig om, hvad folk helt præcist købte af mig, og hvis der var en tvist, tog de bare mine penge og gav dem tilbage uden at nævne det eller give mig en chance for at mægle.
 

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Ja, jeg er ikke engang sælger, jeg bruger det bare til et par venner, og en morgen efter en enkelt transaktion låste de helt, kunne ikke røre ved min saldo og ville sandsynligvis aldrig gøre det. Jeg var nødt til at skælde dem ud nonstop i 24 timer, og da jeg endelig nævnte Better Business Bureau, gav de op og lukkede mig ind. Jeg rører dem aldrig igen
 

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hvis vi taler om PayPal..........hvis de lugter selv den mindste smule af noget forkert, vil de (PayPal) låse din konto for alle kryptotransaktioner i 3 dage. Hvis du på dag 2 og 12 timer prøver at handle igen, nulstilles uret og låses igen i 3 dage. Jeg bruger PayPal til alle mine "kend din kunde"-ting, ikke anonyme ting. Jeg gider ikke engang bruge en vpn. Hvorfor PayPal? Vanens magt, plus at de gør tingene virkelig nemme. Hvis du vil have en skide udfordring, skal du oprette en Monero wallet fra den officielle Monero-hjemmeside. Jeg følte mig sgu som James Bond efter at have sat den op. Jeg elsker stoffer og kemi. Jeg hader absolut at skulle beskæftige mig med VPN, tor, kryptografi, PGP-nøgler bla bla bla.............men GOT TO DO IT
 

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Har du kigget på lokal monero endnu?
 

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Ja, det er det. Men er det sikkert nok?
 
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Jeg er langt fra en ekspert, så tag det med et stort gran salt, men jeg tror, at det attraktive ved XMR er sikkerheden (og de meget billige transaktionsgebyrer, jeg betalte seriøst 2 øre i dag for at sende noget). Mange leverandører er begyndt at tilbyde det og foretrækker det frem for Bitcoin. Jeg kan desværre ikke give dig detaljer om, hvorfor det er bedre.
 

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Desværre har localmonero lukket og slukket, siden jeg skrev om det.

Et alternativ er at bruge en børs efter eget valg, men en mønt med lave transaktionsgebyrer (litecoin er godt), og så sende den til cake wallet og foretage din veksling der. Det er en ret simpel tegnebogs- og udvekslingsplatform
 

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Update to this older thread if anyone else finds it... localmonero has been resurrected and brought back as openmonero.co so check them out. As for trustworthy, the seller must basically deposit an amount greater than they will be trading in to the site. When a transaction begins the site automatically locks an amount of their deposit equal to the amount being traded. If the seller decides to run off with your money then the site will simply release the locked up funds to you preventing a problem with getting scammed. Also, there are some constant regulars. When you start looking to initiate a transaction with someone who already has 22,138 successfully completed transactions andd a 100% track record..... well there are no guarantees in life, but I know I feel comfortable dealing with them. Besides, the spread that they are profitting off of makes it far more beneficial to remain a trustworthy seller. A single transaction may cost you $7-12 over market rate but you get a no kyc transaction and the seller is busy racking up those transaction fees all day long on both ends of the field. He will sell you monero for a profit with whatever your preferred payment method is, and he will also buy monero or btc on the other end each time raking in the profits.... Damn, sounds like I should just invest $5K into crypto holdings and trade for no kyc profit... While I'm sure the powers that be are already devising ways to make it a crime, I'm pretty sure there are no current laws that require me as a personal transaction to collect or verify identification, and no laws as of yet preventing me from conducting multiple small transactions in which I begin to acquire a significant profit regularily....which I would unfortunately find too difficult to maintain accurate ongoing records of due to the constantly fluxuating value of several different currencies, transaction fees, forgetfulness, and general apathy towards governmental efforts to try and regulate my personal affiars....

damn this ADHD, always end up off the rails rambling about something without a clue how I managed to get there most of the time.... with that being said...

there is also some promising services offered by the changeNOW and the half dozen related apps like NOW Wallet, NOW tracker, etc. and the ability to perform certain amounts of no kyc trades on their network for a minor transaction fee. I have used ChangeNOW and Changelly a number of times to convert BTC to Monero without having to provide my entire life history in order to conduct my business with them. Hell, you don't even need to make an account, simply a matter of providing your receiving address and amount and type of crypto to exchange followed by initiating a transfer to the address they provide you after accepting the terms.

OK, that's my limit for the day... I need to try and get some other things accomplished.
 

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Fairly close, if a seller decides to run off with your money, he quickly realizes that's stupid, because he doesn't have your money, and he can't steal it touch it look at it or do anything, because they don't get it until you push "finalize". DON'T GO TO TELEGRAM OR SESSION TO DO A DEAL they will try that because they want to steal your money. Paying 5% insurance to never get ripped off again is worth every penny
 
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