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I can even teach some "dead droppers", in my country i worked on job called: "zakladshik"
We use good protected android phone, apps to find your coordinates. I know much about it.
 
Yea because your phone is the only one in the world that dosent broadcast where it is, when it's on and dosenr use one of its 50 sensors to give information to the fed
ok mr. expert, it seems like you more in this than me:geek:
 
Yea because your phone is the only one in the world that dosent broadcast where it is, when it's on and dosenr use one of its 50 sensors to give information to the fed
you kinda stupid guy that operates only the theories, good luck and keep going
 
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i owned the pro version . they are community made and very cool id suggest you look into them .
 
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i owned the pro version . they are community made and very cool id suggest you look into them .
Once again it does not stop any one from knowing where u are. If you make a call on it u are connected to the network. People get arrested using dumphones. Benefit of a dumphone is its cheap and u can toss it easily. You probably paid top dollar for that thinking your 007. If I get arrested with it they can tell u every place u ever been when the phone was on.. so you basically laying out a map for the fed. This isn't rocket science man. And second. Do you trust your freedom to some random guy who says x and is selling u a phone at a profit? How many times have we seen gadgets like this cone out only to learn after court proceedings that the device didn't do 3/4 of what it claimed and the fed had their hooks into it from day 1
 
Once again it does not stop any one from knowing where u are. If you make a call on it u are connected to the network. People get arrested using dumphones. Benefit of a dumphone is its cheap and u can toss it easily. You probably paid top dollar for that thinking your 007. If I get arrested with it they can tell u every place u ever been when the phone was on.. so you basically laying out a map for the fed. This isn't rocket science man. And second. Do you trust your freedom to some random guy who says x and is selling u a phone at a profit? How many times have we seen gadgets like this cone out only to learn after court proceedings that the device didn't do 3/4 of what it claimed and the fed had their hooks into it from day 1
ever hear of a faraday bag ? lol this phone can only do so much and any added layers of security are your own responsibility .. good OPsec does exist , just not everyone knows about it . You seem closed to any suggestions or reality checks so id rather just close the subject . stay safe
 
ever hear of a faraday bag ? lol this phone can only do so much and any added layers of security are your own responsibility .. good OPsec does exist , just not everyone knows about it . You seem closed to any suggestions or reality checks so id rather just close the subject .

Ofcourse I know what a faraday bag is. I fill it up wity burners and sims. But you have to take it out and make or recieve a call. Once u do that your location is known. If the fed is after you they can easily figure out your imei and any time it's out of the faraday bag they know where you are. That's evidence u where at x location at x time, dunno how this is so difficult to understand.
 
Just to stir the pot a little. Here in the US, all internet communication is collected and stored by the providers. If a company wants to function within the US, they have to store everything, and through a non-public and shady court that exists here, US Gov't agencies can be granted warrants to review every piece of internet history on a person or IP address. At least since for sure 2007–2008, when the NSA's PRISM program went into effect and has been ongoing ever since. But common local law enforcement agencies are not granted access to any of this information, nor are the companies that are forced to collect all of this data. So worrying about whether or not a phone can be tracked is pointless. What matters is anything on a device that can be linked back to you. Such as your name, a known alias, an email account, a social media account, banking info or if your name is connected to the purchase of a device such as a credit card. Then it all gets lumped together. What doesn't matter is anybody who doesn't have the attention of the Federal Government since local police don't typically have the funding, resources or time needed to build evidence on people from their internet actions and even when the lower Federal Government agencies do get to monitor online actives of people online that are committing crimes such as illegal sales, piracy, hacking, etc. They aren't allowed to know that persons name. Found that out first hand and that was shown during the take down of the Silk road, they had to actually check the laptop physically to see it was a match. If someone wants to learn how to remain completely unknown online they're going to need to access the internet themselves without paying a provider.
Anyways I think these privacy comments have nothing to do with dead drops becoming a thing again and should be deleted, this one included.
But since this is supposed to be about dead drops, I'll add a comment about them, drop locations can't be the same twice unless if its for the same buyer (but then what's the point?). Otherwise past buyers can easily check a location for free drugs. Also paranoia is going to be difficult for some people and accidental discovery is going to happen. How to prevent scams? I think that will be tough. Buyers could easily say they were ripped off and nothing was at the drop location, even though they picked up the drop. Then droppers are going to have to wait to see the drop get picked up to confirm it. Which might be noticed by the buyer and spook them. I just don't think it's a promising resurrection of an old idea. That and people are shady af. So imagine all the other ways things could go wrong. Plus just the idea of drugs in random spots around a city are gonna have tweakers digging around in everything everywhere... ohhh if meth was still as good as it used to be, we'd all see that anyways.
 
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Just to stir the pot a little. Here in the US, all internet communication is collected and stored by the providers. If a company wants to function within the US, they have to store everything, and through a non-public and shady court that exists here, US Gov't agencies can be granted warrants to review every piece of internet history on a person or IP address. At least since for sure 2007–2008, when the NSA's PRISM program went into effect and has been ongoing ever since. But common local law enforcement agencies are not granted access to any of this information, nor are the companies that are forced to collect all of this data. So worrying about whether or not a phone can be tracked is pointless. What matters is anything on a device that can be linked back to you. Such as your name, a known alias, an email account, a social media account, banking info or if your name is connected to the purchase of a device such as a credit card. Then it all gets lumped together. What doesn't matter is anybody who doesn't have the attention of the Federal Government since local police don't typically have the funding, resources or time needed to build evidence on people from their internet actions and even when the lower Federal Government agencies do get to monitor online actives of people online that are committing crimes such as illegal sales, piracy, hacking, etc. They aren't allowed to know that persons name. Found that out first hand and that was shown during the take down of the Silk road, they had to actually check the laptop physically to see it was a match. If someone wants to learn how to remain completely unknown online they're going to need to access the internet themselves without paying a provider.
Anyways I think these privacy comments have nothing to do with dead drops becoming a thing again and should be deleted, this one included.
But since this is supposed to be about dead drops, I'll add a comment about them, drop locations can't be the same twice unless if its for the same buyer (but then what's the point?). Otherwise past buyers can easily check a location for free drugs. Also paranoia is going to be difficult for some people and accidental discovery is going to happen. How to prevent scams? I think that will be tough. Buyers could easily say they were ripped off and nothing was at the drop location, even though they picked up the drop. Then droppers are going to have to wait to see the drop get picked up to confirm it. Which might be noticed by the buyer and spook them. I just don't think it's a promising resurrection of an old idea. That and people are shady af. So imagine all the other ways things could go wrong. Plus just the idea of drugs in random spots around a city are gonna have tweakers digging around in everything everywhere... ohhh if meth was still as good as it used to be, we'd all see that anyways.
100% agree. This is my point. Android apple phones are not safe for this work. Especially dead drops.

For dead drops I use one phone for the night and toss it. You want the new number for the night email. Me on protonmail. If you really want to track my phone its not gonna be easy. You have to track a new imei every night
 
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well said. many decades ago they learned how to triangulate a signal between towers and field antennas. they can tell you where your phone was at 3 am 2 years ago
They been doing this shit forever. They know where u are, if your moving, what floor your on and from their they can extrapolate your Web activities if your not using tor . Even if your using tor the *****ers figure out who u are based on from your writing style. So I'll say it again so people can maybe hear me. Android and apple phones are not safe. Burners are not safe, but I toss them daily. You can only ever link me to that day. Walking around with these fancy phones link you to weeks months or years of criminal activities.
 
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They been doing this shit forever. They know where u are, if your moving, what floor your on and from their they can extrapolate your Web activities if your not using tor . Even if your using tor the *****ers figure out who u are based on from your writing style. So I'll say it again so people can maybe hear me. Android and apple phones are not safe. Burners are not safe, but I toss them daily. You can only ever link me to that day. Walking around with these fancy phones link you to weeks months or years of criminal activities.
So how do your customers know what phone number to call to place an order? How do customers know it’s the same dealer they can trust and know won’t get ripped off ? How do you make money buying a new phone and service every day? Seems like overkill
 
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So how do your customers know what phone number to call to place an order? How do customers know it’s the same dealer they can trust and know won’t get ripped off ? How do you make money buying a new phone and service every day? Seems like overkill
4 usd to make 500 is over kill ? You clearly have never been to prison.
 
4 usd to make 500 is over kill ? You clearly have never been to prison.
Wow. You act like a prison gives you bragging rights. You shouldn’t be embarrassed of that shit. Obviously, you did something stupid and got caught because you can’t do anything right
 
Cool story bro
It’s not a story you dumb ass. I am merely pointing out the facts of what obviously is YOUR STORY. You fking wanna be dope dealers all sound the same telling your completely implausible tales. Like somebody said a few posts ago imagine the logistical nightmare of trying to have a New Burner phone every day.

But you and your other idiot wanna be ”Cellie’s” never think about those sort of things and it doesn’t really matter normally because your audience is just as dumb as you are in jail
 
It’s not a story you dumb ass. I am merely pointing out the facts of what obviously is YOUR STORY. You fking wanna be dope dealers all sound the same telling your completely implausible tales. Like somebody said a few posts ago imagine the logistical nightmare of trying to have a New Burner phone every day.

But you and your other idiot wanna be ”Cellie’s” never think about those sort of things and it doesn’t really matter normally because your audience is just as dumb as you are in jail
Cool story bro.

So in the interest of others. U rotate numbers which can be updated on a telegram or on a email ect.
So your telling me you keep a phone or a sim card indefinitely? What did u think a burner phone purpose would be ? Burn it in the winter for warmth?
Clients also generally keep the same numbers most of the time.
Not exactly rocket science. Keeping 1 phone or 1 sim equals as its turned on your location is no longer secret.
You also don't use this phone at your home or place of work.

New sim and new phone can take awhile. I thought this was common knowledge?

Any way bro if this all seems over kill ( dunno how any measure to keep.you free is to much) you do you. History is littered with people with horrible opsec. U do you though
 
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So how do your customers know what phone number to call to place an order? How do customers know it’s the same dealer they can trust and know won’t get ripped off ? How do you make money buying a new phone and service every day? Seems like overkill
I just realised I been talking to someone else.

So every day would be much depending on your paranoia. But it does make things harder for the fed.
At minimum most People change numbers once a month.
Clients will always have the same numbers, u can also slip them a email address at some Point. A lot of this depends on type of clients u deal with. None of this is for corner dealing, and frankly ***** that. This works for more high end clients and dealings.
 
by the way I apologize for the attempts to insult anyone on here we’re all on the same team here. no one has it all figured out we’re supposed to be sharing ideas and working constructively together
 
by the way I apologize for the attempts to insult anyone on here we’re all on the same team here. no one has it all figured out we’re supposed to be sharing ideas and working constructively together
Agree that's what I thought also. I can comment on what I do and why. I joined this group because I don't believe in the hypocrisy of the system and I think most others here do also. I think we want to be left alone to do what we want as free people. I also comment because I've learned tons from other people here and frankly only thing I can share is maybe basic stuff like burners, trap houses and a few other things as I'm probably much much older than most here, so as a result I try to contribute what I can.

But best of luck to you
 
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Yea because your phone is the only one in the world that dosent broadcast where it is, when it's on and dosenr use one of its 50 sensors to give information to the fed
Use a VPN to bounce your location,than use a Jabber protocol to communicate.You can even use a physical firewall to reroute the location


Well please enlighten us. What android phone dosent tell cell towers where it is. I'd love to know
 

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